What's On The Other Side? What A World Without Walls Would Look Like

Apr 12, 2017

As the Department of Homeland Security collects plans for the US-Mexico border, the conversation is turning more towards how border walls don't work in keeping people out.

This hour, we talk about what walls are effective in dividing: our psyches, our environments, and the populations around them.


  • Sergio Avila - Conservation research scientist with the Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum
  • Garrett Carr - Author of The Rule of the Land: Walking Ireland's Border
  • Michelle Stein - Co-designer of Inflato Border, an inflatable, adaptable construct that encourages flexible shared spaces at the US-Mexico Border

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Colin McEnroe and Chion Wolf contributed to this show.