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The Scramble: Natalie Cole, George R.R. Martin, Oregon

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Natalie Cole struggled to step out of the shadows of R&B icon Aretha Franklin and the longer shadow of her father, singer Nat King Cole. But she did it with her stellar voice and lasting, if under-appreciated, contributions to R&B, soul, and jazz.

George R.R. Martin says he can't finish Winds of Winter,the sixth installment behind HBO's beloved "Game of Thrones," before the show's sixth season starts in April. He says he's always had trouble with deadlines and that he's most comfortable writing at his own pace. But, his fans aren't happy. How much do artists like Martin owe their fans? And, do deadlines and creativity go together?

Last, Colin talks aboutthe standoff in Oregon between federal officials and a group of armed protestors, led by Ammon Bundy, son of Cliven Bundy, famous for his own standoff in 2014 over cattle-grazing rights. They're occupying the federal property of Malheur National Wildlife Refuge on behalf of two local ranchers sentenced to jail time for setting fires on public land. The ranchers are willing to go to jail and most of the protestors surrounding their sentence don't want any trouble. So, why is Ammon Bundy protesting. Colin will be taking your calls. 

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Betsy started as an intern at WNPR in 2011 after earning a Master's Degree in American and Museum Studies from Trinity College. She served as the Senior Producer for 'The Colin McEnroe Show' for several years before stepping down in 2021 and returning to her previous career as a registered nurse. She still produces shows with Colin and the team when her schedule allows.

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